that were sent to Royal Rife while he was in Mexico to answer
to the above questions. These were sent back to Cranes Lawyer
state your name?
do you reside?
a tourist in Tijuana
Is it your intention to attend as a witness at the
trial of this action?
Are you the same Royal R. Rife who invented the system
of killing or
de-activating pathogenic organisms by electronic
waves or frequencies produced by instruments similar to
those made by Mr.
John Crane, one of the Defendants in this case?
If so, when did you begin your experimental work on
How long a period did your work cover, in developing
the device and the
techniques of its use?
1920 to the present time - 40 years and development is still
What is the basic theory upon which you sought to find
a means of killing
theory of coordinative resonance with frequencies which I proved
would kill microorganisms
transfer and internal stresses of pathogenic cells
owing to electromagnetic and electrostatic forces.
What kind of pathogenic organisms did you study, in
typhoid, gonorrhea, syphilis, staphylococci, pneumonia,
tuberculosis, sarcoma, carcinoma, leprosy, polio, cholera,
actinomycosis, glanders, bubonic plague, anthrax,
influenza, herpes, cataracts, glaucomia, colitis,
sinus, ulcers and many other virus bacteria, and fungi.
From what sources were these organisms obtained?
Hooper Foundation, Paradise Valley Sanatorium, from Northwestern
Medical University in Chicago, from the Mayo
Clinic, and from many medical
What sort of laboratory facilities did you have, for
use in these experiments?
had one of the best privately equipped laboratories in the world
complete with a
million volt X-Ray,
frequencyinstruments, electronic test equipment, precision lathes,
mills, drill presses, shaper and all equipment
necessary to make instruments,
microscopes, glass blowing, and a surgical room for animals with
sterilizers of the steam type and a pathology room
complete with microscopes of
all types virus microscopes which I had designed and built for
the isolation of cancer
virus, T.B. virus, typhoid virus and many other virus. I
had a stop motion microscope
set up for the life study of microorganisms from the
cradle to the grave.
I had animals in cages in the basement with facilities for 1000
animals. The Rife
Research Laboratory was air-conditioned and humidity
controlled to one
tenth of one degree.
Where was your laboratory located?
Alcott Street across the bridges mansion in Point Loma
Did you study viruses, among other pathogenic
Were any special instruments required for your
study of viruses?
What were they?
virus microscopes and Berkefelt porcelain filters, a
electronic test instruments and frequency
Were all of these obtained from ordinary
- I could not buy them on the open market and they are still not
some were not obtainable from ordinary commercial sources,
how did you obtain them?
had to design and build these instruments to accomplish what I
wanted to attain with my
Who designed these?
were they made?
the Rife Research Laboratory.
Describe these special instruments for us?
universal microscope was described and published by the journal
of the Franklin
Institute. Time does not permit me to describe all of the many
instruments that I designed and constructed. The
micromanipultor was used to dissect
and operate on cells. The spectrometer was used to measure the
angle of crystals, the
frequency instruments were used to kill bacteria, virus, and
fungi, the microscopes of
the prismatic virus were used to study living virus, bacteria,
and fungi, a petrographical micropolariscope was
used to analyze chemicals and
color frequencies with polarized light, special rare gas
glass contained atmospheres
were used to provide ionized radiation to transmit energy to
increase virulence and to devitalize all microorganisms
pathogenic organisms did you study in virus form?
virus, typhoid, tuberculosis virus, herpes virus, B-coli virus,
and about 40 other viruses that have never been isolated
How did you obtain these viruses?
pure cultures of known and medical diagnosed tissues of human
through porcelain Berkefeld filters.
your experiments by which you isolated these
the filtered form was obtained, a micropipette is used to place
a drop of the fluid on a
slide. This slide is placed on the microscope stage of any
of the 5 virus
microscopes that I designed and built. A special Bisely prism
which works on a
counter rotation principle selects a portion of the light
frequency which illuminates
these virus in their own characteristic chemical colors by
emission of coordinative
light frequency and the virus become readily identifiable by the
colors revealed on observation. 8000 to 17000x
magnification is sufficient to see
them. Before building the virus prismatic microscopes, I
sectioned over 15,000
slides trying all types of acid and aniline dye strains with no
results over a period of
How did you determine whether these viruses
animal tests and from known sources and by microscope
examination which reveals
the true identity of microorganisms to the
Describe your experiments made to prove that
these viruses were
one series of cancer tests, I inoculated the virus which I had
isolated and filtered
from an unulcerated breast mass into an Albino rat, the tumor
was allowed to grow and
then I surgically removed the tumor and again isolated and
filtered the virus from a portion of the ground up tumor
and inoculated the next rat
and repeated this procedure 411 times to prove that this virus
was the causative agent
of cancer. Tests on many other diseases such as those
previously mentioned are too numerous to even start on at
how long a period of time did your work/study of these
viruses, and proof of their pathogenic character, over?
years on virus only
Did you also study bacterial forms of
pathogenic organisms associated
with these viruses?
you find whether some bacteria were capable of releasing a
form of virus?
Virus are released from bacteria just as a chicken lays an egg.
did you determine this?
virus observation and cell study and virus photographs which I
made and one which John
Crane made from a film of cancer virus which has been
29. What are some of the bacteria which you
found to be capable of
releasing a form of virus?
coli, tuberculosis, typhoid, and many others.
Were certain kinds of culture media better
suited than others to the
study of the relationship between thebacteria and virus
media developed by Arthur I. Kendall known as "K"
media proved superior to
other types of bacteria media.
so, why, or in what way, were some culture media superior to
others for this purpose?
of the results obtained.
Were any physicians or scientists associated
with you in any of these
Who were they?
Johnson, M.D., Arthur I. Kendall, Ph.D., E.C. Rosenow, M.D.,
Coolidge of General Electric, O.C. Grunner,
M.D., Henry Siner, Dr. Copp, M.D.,
Alvin G. Foord, M.D., Ernest Lynwood Walker, M.D., and Karl
M.D., of the Hooper Foundation of San Francisco, George Dock,
M.D.,Waylen Morrison, M.D., Dr. Fischer, M.D.,
Verne Thompson, Ben Cullen,
Ray Lounsberry, M.D., James B. Couche, M.D., Charles F. Tully,
D.D.S., Arthur Yale, M.D., R.T. Hamer, M.D., John Crane,
Dave Sawyer, Don Tully,
J. Heitger, M.D., Royal Lee, Ph.D., T.O. Burger, M.D., Alice
Kendall and many others.
34. Where did they work with you?
was conducted in various laboratories, offices, and buildings in
San Diego and in the
United States. I traveled all over the world and many doctors
and scientists and
executives visited me at my various laboratories including the
Laboratory, The Point Loma Lab set up at Dr. Tully's, The Rife
Institute, and another microscope and dark room facility at San
Diego, and I furnished free of charge to the police crime
laboratory thousands of dollars
worth of chemicals, precision instruments, electronic
instruments, and training
in microscope techniques and laboratory diagnosis and other
glassware after I closed the Rife Research Laboratory in 1946.
for research work on seawater conversion was set up and used at
the foot of Canyon Street in Point Loma.
35. What part did they have in any
of these experiments or studies?
the work and the origin was developed under my control and
guidance. Later their
work became an interest of collaboration and observation of the
results attained. Initially I worked with loose couplers
to get an audio oscillation and then with the use of
transmitters, I tried to balance the audio and modulate
the audio on a carrier wave to transmit the audio energy
but I found that both the
audio and the audio transmitted through a tube as an antenna
worked equally as well in
a painless and harmless method to human tissue. Coolidge
furnished many tubes. Milbank Johnson, a
multimillionaire, setup and supervised
three human research clinics. The first clinic was set up under
a special medical
research committee of the University of Southern California with
Dr. Rufus B. von Klein Smidt on the committee in the home
of Ellen Scripps in La
Jolla in 1934. Johnson selected outstanding doctors to aid us in
the clinical work
such as Docks, Morrison, Foord, Meyer, Kendall, Rosenow, Fischer
of the Children's
Hospital in New York, and others helping or observing were
Heitger, Lounsberry, Copp, Alice Kendall, Henry Seiner,
Grunner, Burger, Hamer,
Couche, Yale, and Cullen. Walker and I studied leprosy and I
isolated a virus
which we jointly demonstrated was common to rat, soil, and human
leprosy and I found a frequency which would
eliminate leprosy. Dr. Gonin M.D.
visited me and I sent Henry Siner to demonstrate a virus
microscope in England to
the medical profession there. Alice Kendall worked for me in the
lab and so did Henry
Seiner and others. From 1950 and on, John Crane has
continued on with
this research. The others were visitors and interested
parties. Many others have
aided in promotion of this research and the AMA has suppressed
all effort and
research knowledge of my developments.
36. Did you grow bacteria and viruses in
various culture media?
did you determine what they were?
can readily be diagnosed by their own true colors which are
emitted when placed
in any of the five virus microscopes that I designed and
built for this virus identification
study and experience did you have in the science of
optics, before commencing these experiments?
studied for 6 years with Hans Luckel who was Carl Zeiss's
optical scientist and
researcher. I also made all the
photomicrographs for the Atlas of Parasites
which was done at the University of Heidelberg. I also
studied eye surgery for two
Over about what period of time had you made
such study and gained
years before commencing on my own research.
Did you find ordinary microscopes, such as are
commercial sources, adequate for the study of these viruses?
what ways were they deficient?
have insufficient power, poor detail and definition, and poor
resolution and cannot
illuminate the virus with selective frequency or
frequencies of monochromatic
beam light which is required to see virus control of the light
is very important.
What types of microscope did you find
necessary to complete your
study of these viruses?
virus microscopes which I designed and built for virus study and
research only. I have never tried to
commercialize on these instruments. They
were offered to Baush and Lomb but they couldn't justify
the cost of tooling to build
these complex instruments and the doctors could not afford to
buy them either
because they would have been too expensive for the average
laboratory to even
what ways did they differ from the commercially available types?
the barrel were prisms which transmitted the light. The stage
had to be leveled and a series
of condenser lenses between the patented microscope lamp of mine
and the Risely prism
were located below the stage. Special lens spacings were
important to compensate for
the extra long tube length of 220 and 440 mm and a higher degree
of accuracy in stage adjustments
was provided. In the Universal Microscope, 7 turns of the dial
moved the object under
study one micron. Slit ultra illumination was also
Did you obtain the kinds of special
microscopes you found to be
did you obtain them?
built many and I purchased some and had them built to my
types were they?
research types, prismatic virus types, crystallographic,
petrographical-micropolariscope, polarized, and
47.What did these special microscopes do
which the commercially available
types would not do as well?
virus and allow us to study them alive and identify them as
virus and allow us
to diagnose them as to the disease of which they caused and were
48.What is necessary, in order to make bacteria and
viruses visible under the microscope?
there must be high enough power to enable the observer to see
them and second they must be identified
by a frequency of light which coordinates with the chemical
constituents of the virus or filterable
form in question. To my knowledge there is only one instrument
today which will even show these
virus and that is the Rife prismatic virus microscopes which I
built for this work. The electron
microscope is a useless device for this study because the
virus are killed instantly and you don't know
what form you are seeing them in and generally appear as
round balls of dried up chemical particles.
different methods of staining bacteria and viruses are in
and analine dye strains of many formulae are commercially
Did you find these common methods of staining
sufficient for the
experiments you performed?
not, what were their deficiencies?
would not show the flagella, or the virus.
you devise another method of staining or making visible
bacteria and viruses?
What was this method?
had devised a stain with Alfalfa hay and mercury for flagella on
B-Coli and typhoid
to count their concentration. Virus were made visible for
the first time with
a variable light frequency controlled by a Risely prism of a
an iris diaphragm, condenser lenses and other features
Explain how it was done?
rotation and variable monochromatic beam adjustment of the Rife
How did you obtain the instruments necessary
to do this?
built them in my research laboratory. Which is shown in movies
that John Crane has at
What study and experience have you had in the
science of Bacteriology?
studied bacteriology at John Hopkins University and the
University of Heidelberg
and in my own research laboratory.
Over about what period of time did you get
this study and experience?
studying bacteria and viruses growing in culture
media, did you also make any study of their effects upon
laboratory animals inoculated with such bacteria or
kinds of animal were used in such experiments?
rats, Guina pigs, rabbits. I had about 800 rats which were used
60.Where were such experiments
the Rife Research Laboratory in Point Loma.
Under whose direction?
Did any other scientists or physicians assist
you in any of these
studies of inoculated laboratory animals?
but I had men that worked for me and helped me.
Did any other scientists observe, without
actually assisting, any
of these studies or experiments?
Dr. Kendall, Grunner, Johnson, Couche, Copp, Lounsberry, Burger,
Seiner, Cullen, Foord, Rosenow, Karl Meyer,
Walker, and others as stated
Who were they?
part did they take in such studies?
bringing cancer tissue, collaborating results, by using the
virus microscopes and
observing my results and observations, by growing virus and by
conducting clinical tests
on virus, bacteria and fungi on cultures and human cases or
patients for their
own research and knowledge.
As a result of such studies, did you and Dr. Arthur I.
Kendall publish a
report of some of your experiments or studies of
filterable forms of Bacillus Typhosus?
this report published in "California and Western
Medicine", the journal of the California Medical
the December, 1931, issue?
this a copy of the article ? (Attach as Defendant's Exhibit A)
Was this Dr. Arthur Isaac Kendall, Ph. D., at
that time the Director of
Medical Research of Northwestern University
In July, 1932, did you continue some of this
study of bacteria and
viruses with Dr. Isaac Kendall in his laboratory at
Northwestern University Medical School?
At that time, did Dr. E. C. Rosenow, M.D., of
the Division of Experimental
Bacteriology of the Mayo Clinic, Rochester,
Minnesota, observe some of this study made at
Medical School, in Dr. Kendall's laboratory?
Dr. Rosenow publish a report of this study in the July 1932
issue of the Mayo Clinic bulletin?
this a copy of this publication of Dr. Rosenow's article
(Attach as Defendant's Exhibit B)
About when did you begin your experiments in the
effect of electronic
frequencies upon bacteria and viruses?
did you obtain the device or mechanism used to generate
coils I wound myself. Other parts I purchased.
did you determine whether particular frequencies had any
affect upon bacteria or viruses?
observation with bacteria and virus under the Rife virus
prismatic microscopes in
conjunction with the application of electronic energy.
Were you able to kill or de-activate any
bacteria or viruses by the
application to them of electronic currents or
Can you name some of the bacteria and viruses
which you were able
to kill or de-activate by such means?
typhoid, gonorrhea, treponema pallidum, staphylococci,
bacillus coli, tuberculosis, streptococci, sarcoma, carcinoma,
and many others. It was
found that by using combinations of these frequencies for the
different microorganisms that many other disease could be helped
like sinus, ulcers,
cataract, arthritis, poliomyelitis, etc.
there a distinction between the terms "kill" and
you have used them? That is to say, were any of these
viruses or bacteria deprived of their virulent activity
without having to
completely kill them?
On some research it was found that after transfer to another
media no further
reproduction would occur.
treatment of viruses or bacteria by the application to them
of certain electronic currents or rays, as you have
there ever any change in the appearance of such bacteria
or viruses as seen under your microscope? If
so, describe it.
Some types will explode or disintegrate and some will gather
together like log jams or
you acquainted with Dr. Milbank Johnson, M. D., during
Did he participate in any of your experiments
or studies on the effect
of electronic frequencies upon bacteria and viruses?
he participate in any of your experiments or studies on the
effect of these electronic frequencies upon
laboratory animals which
had been inoculated with various diseases?
you furnish one of your electronic frequency-generators to
Dr. Milbank Johnson for his use?
about what period of time did he use it?
did he make use of it?
the Santa Fe hospital in Los Angeles and a private clinic in
87. Was this
electronic frequency-generator used by him or under
his direction in the treatment of diseases of human
he report to you the result of these treatments?
you observe the giving of any of these treatments?
90.Did you observe the results of these treatments?
changes did you observe in the condition of any of the
patients so treated by Dr. Milbank Johnson with the
instrument you had
furnished to him? Describe them in detail?
observed some cataract cases, etc.
the period of time when Dr. Milbank Johnson was so
using your electronic frequency-generator, were you
acquainted with Dr. James B. Couche M. D. (now deceased)?
Did Dr. James B. Couche participate in the work of Dr.
in the treatment of human patients with the
Did you furnish Dr. James B. Couche, M. D.,
with one of your electronic
frequency-generators for his own use?
The beam Ray Corporation built two instruments for Dr. Couche.
did Dr. Milbank Johnson die?
the work of Dr. Milbank Johnson in treating human
patients with your frequency-generator continued
after his death?
Dr. James B. Couche continue to use the
frequency-generator which you had furnished to him? If
so, until about
Until he died in 1959.
when did Dr. James B. Couche die?
the spring of 1959.
Did Dr. James B. Couche report to you the
results of his use of your
Did you observe any of the treatments given by
Dr. James B.Couche with your electronic
Did you observe the results of any of the
treatments given by Dr.
James B. Couche with your electronic frequency-generator?
102.What changes did you observe in the condition of
any of the human patients
who had been so treated with your
frequency-generator by Dr. James B. Couche?
saw cancer and tuberculosis cases that had completely recovered.
I saw Dr.Couches brother who had come over from England. He had
a 30 year sinus condition
with terrible drainage. Dr. Couche used the frequency instrument
on him and he was well in three weeks. Dr. Couche had treated
Dr. Hamer, M.D. for a
sinus condition which cleared up. Dr. Couche had treated Dr.
brother-in-law who had a stiff wrist * a tuberculosis of the
bone which cleared up. Also I saw a mexican boy who had
osteomelitys of the bone which Dr.
Couche cleared up with the frequency instrument. I saw
George Lemm being
treated by Dr. Couche for tuberculosis and he had come out from
Chicago to die. He was sent from the Vulclain home. As
soon as they found out
that Couche was getting results, they tried to get all of
their patients back but
Lemm said no that he was going to finish up with Couche and he
you furnish Dr. Arthur W. Yale, M. D. (now deceased) with
one of your electronic frequency-generators?
If so, about when?
He ordered an instrument from the Beam Ray Corporation in 1937.
Did Dr. Arthur W. Yale furnish you with any
reports of the results of
his treatment of human patients with your electronic
you observe the results of any of the treatments given by
Dr. Arthur W. Yale?
you observe the condition of any of Dr. Arthur W. Yale's
patients after they had been treated by him with your
electronic frequency-generator? If so, what change, if
any, in their condition
did you observe?
They completely recovered from syphilis, cancer, tuberculosis,
and many other
you perform any experiments on laboratory animals which
had been inoculated with any diseases, to determine
the affect upon
such animals of treatment with your electronic
kind of animals did you use?
rats, rabbits, Guina pigs.
With what diseases were these animals
carcinoma, tuberculosis, typhoid, etc.
Were any of these animals inoculated with
cancer in any form?
in detail the experiments with your electronic frequency-generator?
the animal was inoculated a quarantine period of two weeks was
observed with stool analysis and metabolism check up made
to be sure that the
animal was free of disease and in good health. On one series of
cancer tests I inoculated
the cancer virus that I isolated from an unulcerated human
breast mass into an Albino rat and grew the tumor. I
surgically removed this tumor
and again isolated the virus and inoculated the next rat. I did
this 411 times on one
series of tests to prove that the BX or the virus which I had
isolated was in reality the causative agent of cancer.
This procedure is shown in
a documentary film which John Crane has of this work and it also
shows the virus of cancer
before and after devitalization with a Rife frequency
instrument. An air bubble
is shown coming into the cover slip because I had not
sealed it. We also did a
great deal of work on tuberculosis with animals and proved that
the rod form and the virus form must both be
devitalized to attain results which
requires two frequencies * One for each form before
recovery can occur. The treatment
for all of the diseases proved successful and hundreds of tests
were conducted on each
disease with adequate controls before the critical
frequencies were established.
Did you compare the subsequent condition of
the animals so treated
with your frequency-generator with the condition of
"control" animals which had been inoculated
with disease but not
treated with your frequency-generator? If so, describe the
difference, if any, which you observed in their
The inoculated controls died and the controls which were not
About how many experiments of this kind did
[note: on the original document 100,000 had been type-written,
crossed out and 50,000 added
by hand] animal tests and 400 [15,000 type-written, crossed out
and 400 written by hand]
test tubes daily on my experiments.
Over about what period of time did you conduct
you find, from these experiments, that it made any
difference which particular frequency you used in the
treatment of any certain disease?
any disease respond exactly the same to all frequencies
or a wide variety of frequencies? If so, which one?
you able to determine whether each kind of bacteria or
virus which you tested was affected most by some
happened when you used a different frequency on it?
was not affected.
you make a moving picture showing the interior of your
laboratory and some of its equipment?
this moving picture also show some of your experimental
work on laboratory animals?
Some cancer work is shown.
In this moving picture, who is the person
shown performing surgical
operations on laboratory animals?
performed all surgery at the Rife Research Laboratory.
now has this moving picture? Did you give it to him?
you ever explain to John F. Crane, one of the defendants
in this case, the principles upon which your
is used in the treatment of diseases?
you also inform him of the particular frequencies which
you had found to be effective in the treatment of various
Verne Thompson and I gave the frequencies to John Crane.
did you furnish him with this information?
Did you ever request any governmental
department or agency to
make a test of your electronic
to determine its effect
upon diseases? If so, which one or ones?
The Department of Health, Education and Welfare and the National
Research Council * Committee on Growth *Washington D.C.,
The American Cancer
Society, The Damon Runyon Fund, The Slone Kettering Institute,
The International Cancer Clinic and many others. They have shown
no interest in an
any one of them express willingness to make such a test,
or even to observe such a test? Is so, which one?
The American Cancer Society was interested until they found out
that John Crane and I are
not medical doctors and then they called John Crane
from New York and stated that they had decided to cancel
the proposed project
which would have shown them how to isolate the virus, make
it virulent, grow
the cancer tumors and how to electronically eliminate the
cancer. They spend
millions on drugs but nothing on electronics unless it will
supplement drugs like X-Ray and radioactive
treatments which put terrible
scar tissue and burns inside the body and then the person
has to have a great amount
of dope and pain killers to keep the pain down. The drug
racketeer makes ten
billion dollars annually on cancer alone and with this
money they have
been able to have an unconstitutional law put on the books which
stated that people will
only be treated for cancer by medical doctors with X-Ray,
radioactive treatments, and surgery creating a drug
monopoly to kill cancer; slowly.
Did any one of them ever actually make a test
of your electronic
frequency-generator, using the frequencies which
you had found to be effective, so far as you know?
you ever request any medical school to make a test of
your electronic frequency-generator, using the
frequencies which you had
found to be effective?
Other than the work of the Special Committee
under Dr. Milbank
Johnson, did any medical school express a
willingness to make such a test?
Work was done at the Hooper Foundation of the University of
California and at
Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago by Ernest
Lynwood Walker and Arthur I. Kendall.
Did you ever request any medical society to
make a test of your
electronic frequency-generator, using the frequencies
which you had found to be effective? If so, which one or
The American Medical Association
any medical society express a willingness to make, or to
observe such a test?
far as you know, has any medical society ever made a test
of your electronic frequency-generator, using the
you had found to be effective?
you ever made or observed a test of the effect of the electronic
frequency-generators, of the type produced by John
F. Crane, one of the Defendants
in this case? If so, tell us the kind of test or tests, who made
such a test or tests, and what result
I saw the instrument kill earthworms., (bacillus coli and
others. I showed John Crane how
to accomplish this work.) ()Added later to the answers
Have you been awarded a Research Fellowship in
Bio-Chemistry by any nationally-known Institute for
is the name of it?
this a copy of the award, together with a copy of the covering
letter or transmittal
from the Andean Anthropological Expedition? (Attach as
Defendant's Exhibit C).